The Stella Sessions - Part XIV

The Stella Sessions

29 May 1990

J: I’d like you to recall the incident when you were going to have dinner with your mother in law. About the time you came out and saw some figures around your car.

S: I think the time you are referring to was when I was in Gosnells.

J: In Gosnells, yes. That’s right.

S: It wasn’t to have dinner. I think I was just visiting her.

J: You were just visiting your mother in law. Could you tell me about it? Let’s start from the beginning. You’ll find you’ll remember everything very clearly.

S: They weren’t there when I went out initially. I was reversing the car out and the car stalled. I looked up, I don’t know why, I think something must have caught the corner of my eye, and I looked out above the roof of the house. And I think I was about to get out of the car to check under the bonnet to see why it had stalled and I looked up and there was a bright star above over towards the hills, somewhere between the airport and the hills, I suppose that would have been the location.

J: What time was this do you think?

S: It was dark but it was early evening.

J: What month would that be?

S: It would have been about 7 pm.

J: The month? Was it winter or summer?

S: Winter more, but it wasn’t wet or raining.

J: May or June, something like that?

S: July, maybe August.

J: What year?

S: ’86.

J: July 1986 you went to see your mother in law. As you backed the car out, what happened?

S: The sky was really bright and I got out, and as I was watching a star, it grew larger and then there was other stars behind it, about three or four in all. One went off to the left, I think, and one to the right.

J: Were these stars coloured?

S: No, they were just very big, white bright stars. Anyway, I turned over my right shoulder, turned to look behind and I think there was another one behind way, way over. I think it looked miles away but it was really bright and it sort of sped off towards the hills and bounced off the side of the hills and shot straight up and there was a big bang, like it had hit the hillside. And that’s when it shot upwards, straight up and I thought, ‘Oh that sounds like it hit the side of the hill.’ Yes, it shot upwards.

J: And then?

S: I remember yelling at the star that was over the house. I mean it was sort of under the sky above it, but probably way, way miles away. I don’t know why now. I just had the impression they could hear and also that they were following me and I was yelling at them to stop following me, just leave me alone. That’s when I became aware there were figures in the driveway.

J: Blocking the exit of your car?

S: No the car could reverse into the road. It was more between the car and the house.

J: How many figures?

S: Three, maybe four. There was one who seemed separate from the other three, I think. He was in front of the house near the bushes. He seemed to be peering in through the windows of the house and he was sort of olive skinned and wearing a white pleated wrap around skirt or something.

J: Quite inappropriate for the weather.

S: Yes. It was really strange.

J: Was he wearing anything else except the skirt?

S: No, I don’t think so.

J: Bare-chested?

S: Yes. The others were in pale blue suits.

J: Track suits?

S: Overalls. One ever appeared on the top of my car and I thought surly some passing motorist would see him.

J: How do you know he was on top of the car?

S: I could see him there. He was just there.

J: Was he peering in or something?

S: No, he’s standing on the car. There’s nothing around or above him.

J: But you were inside the car?

S: No I was outside by then.

J: You were outside the car. You’d got out of the car?

S: This is after I got out and I had another look at the stars. And they flashed off and then I looked around the saw the one behind.

J: So you stopped reversing, you got out of the car. Were you still in the driveway?

S: Yes, still on the driveway.

J: What happened then?

S: Well, I’d been yelling at this after the star behind had hit the hill and flashed upwards, I’d been yelling at the star behind the house and I heard one of the guys in the driveway say, ‘Well, at least we know her lungs are O.K.’ And they wanted me to leave my wedding band and my rings in the car.

J: A strange request.

S: Yes. I think they wanted me to go with them but they wanted me to leave all metal behind. But I refused. I didn’t trust them, so I refused.

J: You thought they might take them?

S: Mmm. But they promised that the rings would be returned.

J: Who was talking to you? The Blues or the Egyptian?

S: The Blues.

J: The Pharaoh. The tall one didn’t say anything. Is that it? Was he in charge or not? The one in the white pleated skirt?

S: It’s hard to say who was in charge really. He didn’t really say much. He didn’t say anything. He seemed to be more in the background.

J: Let’s call him the Pharaoh.

S: They said that obviously if I went with them I was going to return because they said that they would return the ring to me and I would know who they were when they did so. So that I would know who they were. I think that’s what they meant. By having the rings I could identify who they were. I would know it was as good as an I.D. card or something. I regret not going up now. I think I should have.

J: You missed an interesting trip. So what went on then?

S: Something about them wanting me to have a child and I didn’t really agree. I thought it was a bit strange. A request. And they said that they had chosen others as well. And I was the only one that had something – I can't remember now what it was – which I suppose is why they were interested anyway.

J: Did you try to remember what they said to you?

S: No, it really doesn’t make sense but I think they said I had a crown,

J: A crown?

S: Mmm. But I don’t know what they meant by that. I know a girlfriend of mine who used to be able to, or who can see auras said I had a very unusual aura. So whether they were referring to my aura or to something else I don’t know. But I certainly don’t wear a crown.

J: So what happened then?

S: They said, I mean it's  really strange but what they said, but it didn’t happen. They said that God will come down like a wind. And the next thing there was this, not as gentle as a willie willie but it was stronger, there was a definite sort of rushing of wind in one area. You could see the wind or this tunnel of air there was a presence there and I don’t know what else happened. I think the next thing they were leaving and they were saying something about to learn to trust or I should trust them, because I felt I didn’t want to enter into anything without knowing the consequences.

J: How did they leave?

S: I don’t know how they left. They were up above me but I don’t know...

J: Were they floating up somewhere?

S: No, they were in something but I can't remember anything about the shape or the size or anything. All I know is that he was talking to me from up above.

J: One of the Blues?

S: Yes, the same one that was maybe talking to me on the ground. He was up above the behind the car so I had my back to the house and as he was going, he was telling me to trust them. That they would send someone or something.

J: They would send someone. And then what happened after that? Did you get back into the car?

S: No. I think I went inside.

J: Did you go to your mother in laws?

S: I think I did but I don’t remember doing that.

J: When you got inside...

S: Inside the house I realised I’d forgotten what I was originally setting out to do, to visit my mother in law’s home. I went back in the car and left but when I got to the house Mark came out and said it was really late and it was.

J: So there was some missing time. So let’s go back along that drive now. Where are you now?

S: I can't recall much. I remembering driving off from the house going through the lights at Warburton Crescent and turning into the house.

J: How far is your house from?

S: A few miles.

J: Try and go back along that drive, take it very slowly, very easily. Starting from the house. Can you recall anything?

S: No. It was just the usual drive.

[End of session]

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The Stella Sessions - Part XIII

The Stella Sessions

18 May 1990

J: Will you tell me about the time when in the observatory like room you saw what appeared to be a beam of light, intensely white. Where were you standing?

S: Just at the doorway into the observatory.

J: Is the room large?

S: It’s very large.

J: Can you describe it briefly?

S: It’s large and round. I know it’s very large. Almost as large as a football field. It’s very big.

J: And is it dark or not?

S: Yes it’s very dark.

J: Who’s with you?

S: A Blue and a Gray.

J: What’s happening now?

S: I’m looking up at the ceiling and it’s dome shaped, like an observatory dome. It has ridges coming up and down the side walls down to the ground. And a doorway to the right, way, way, over, and it’s very tiny. There's a light over in the distance, just off towards the left, off the centre of the far side. And there’s a figure there against a bench, and the figure behind me is a white robot type, watching at the door between the rooms. And I start walking forward on the floor. It’s highly polished like glass but underneath it’s grainy and it’s black. I walk to the better lit side towards the bench, it’s very light gray, with a light gray grain mixed in it. And as I get close to the light gray, the floor becomes [unintelligible] and in the centre there’s a beam of white light.

J: Coming from above?

S: From way up to the top.

J: Describe the light.

S: It starts off as a pencil thin ray and gradually gets wider and wider. It’s very solid looking as well, very brilliant and very dazzling. It’s also very solid. You can't see through it. And after I’ve walked over to the bench, we all walk to the beam and they show me what it does.

J: And what does it do?

S: In the light I can just make out a plant inside a wall of light, an everyday sort of green plant, with big green leaves, and a pink flower, a bit like a – I forget the name – a small pink flower. It floats out by itself and it’s transparent. Then it floats back in. And it looks really solid in the light. And it’s still floating and it goes back in. Then there’s a figure like a man I can dimly make out the fuzzy face and body in the light. And it floats out, projected out by the light. It’s like a transparent hologram. And that floats back into the light. It seems to take on a more solid appearance as it goes back in and comes back out. Now it’s a solid figure.

J: Can you see what it’s wearing?

S: Some sort of suit. It’s not clear enough. You can't really tell. I think it’s gray.

J: And then what happens?

S: The figure just floats back into the white light.

J: Does it look like a living thing.

S: Mmm. As real as you and I.

J: When it goes back, what happens?

S: The light diminishes into a pencil thin light.

J: Does the figure vanish?

S: Mmm.

J: And then what happens?

S: I think I’m standing there a bit dumbfounded.

J: And then?

S: I see that image of an egg.

J: Tell me about the egg.

S: It’s just like the light of the solid beam again, and part of this projection of an oval shape comes out of the light.

J: Can you describe it, this oval shape?

S: It’s rounded. It’s very much like a giant dinosaur egg and it’s supported by some sort of structure.

J: What colour is the egg?

S: The egg is white.

J: Is it shining or dull?

S: It’s glowing white, like the beam.

J: And the structure is holding it up?

S: Mmm.

J: Can you describe the structure?

S: I can only see the part that’s outside the beam. It’s like a collar around the egg.

J: Do you know what the egg is for?

S: No. I don’t know what any of this is for.

J: And what happens now?

S: I’m looking around at the room. And I think we just walked back to the doorway.

J: Can you tell me about the ball that you held to your forehead, on another occasion? The ball that changed colour.

S: I’m in a room like a restaurant.

J: Why like a restaurant?

S: There are chairs all around.

J: And tables?

S: And tables. It’s not brightly lit, with a relaxing light, with padded or cushioned chairs.

J: Were they small chairs or human sized chairs?

S: Human sized. Place around like any other restaurant. And I’m standing there and I have this gray ball in my hand.

J: Who gave you the gray ball? Do you know who gave it do you?

S: There are others at my table. I don’t know. Maybe one of them.

J: Can you describe the others.

S: Just people.

J: Human beings?

S: Yes.

J: Are there any aliens around?

S: No.

J: And one of the human beings is giving you the ball?

S: I don’t see him actually give me the ball. That’s the impression I have. And I’m just standing there at the table and they’re sitting and they’re watching. And I’m placing it against my forehead.

J: How does the ball feel?

S: Very light, cold.

J: When you place it against your forehead, do you feel anything?

S: No. I don’t feel any different.

J: What happens to the ball?

S: It glowed, it changed to a light.

J: Did you see the colour it was changing to?

S: It changed to a different colour, and white too, to a warm orange colour, like an amber colour. But it’s supposed to change colour.

J: Do you know what it’s for, this ball?

S: It shows your karma.

J: It shows your karma. Doe it show anything else besides your karma?

S: It shows everything to do with karma, your health, the state you’re in. Everything. It’s strange. It's  like those rings that were all the rage at one stage, they’re supposed to show your emotions. It's  like that. It's  all different things. It can tell whether a person is innocent or guilty, or sick or healthy.

J: Do you know why this ball was given to you?

S: No.

J: Do you know where you are?

S: Not really. It’s like I’m at some sort of cafe but there’s no counter, no bright lights, no chit chat, or many people around the tables. It's  very, very quiet.

J: How many other people are there?

S: Not many. Well, there's only a few people at my table. But there are people there, about twenty people possibly.

J: Are they eating?

S: No, they’re just sitting at various tables. Some in groups, some in pairs.

J: Sounds more like a meeting or a conference or a seminar than a restaurant, doesn’t it?

S: Mmm. Except that there’s not one big table. There’s all little table.

J: Yes. Like discussion groups almost. Are people talking to each other much?

S: No. I’m not sure.

J: Do you get the impression that this is taking place on earth or somewhere else?

S: I don’t know. It’s just an image that came to me. I don’t know where it is. It’s not really a normal restaurant or cafe. And there’s no food or utensils. It’s rather blank and bare. The tables are empty and there’s nothing on the tables. Nothing around the walls, no paintings or pictures.

J: What sort of lighting does it have?

S: Just diffused lighting. It doesn’t seem to come from one point or source. It seems to come from all over.

J: Could it be on an alien craft?

S: It could be anywhere.

J: But it’s nowhere you remember being is it? Have you been there before?

S: No, never.

J: What happens after that?

S: That’s all I remember now, just taking the ball and holding it against my forehead. It’s like a grey pearl.

J: Like a grey pearl?

S: Like that sheen of a pearl but darker, greyer. It’s almost white, not quite.

[End of session]

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The Stella Sessions - Part XII

The Stella Sessions

1 May 1990

J: So tell me about the star room. Describe it.

S: It’s a room about the normal size of the other rooms in the craft. It has some sort of structure over against the opposite wall from the doorway. It looks like two seats on either side of a small control panel or bench. They all went into one stand.

J: Where are you standing now?

S: In the doorway.

J: Is the room dark?

S: Medium. It’s sort of fairly well lit.

J: Who’s with you?

S: There's no one in the room.

J: No walk forward. What do you see, what do you feel?

S: It’s gone dark and it’s like a blackness. I remember there being a ridge in the floor I could step down. The closer I got to that ridge the more I could see there were stars or white lights but it was hard to say where they were because as it got dark you couldn’t see the floor or the walls. And it just got darker and darker. And the stars became brighter. You couldn’t see any features of the room around. It was just like being in the middle of the night sky. I could feel the floor under me but I couldn’t see it. It was just like blackness and the stars.

J: Did you feel giddy or frightened?

S: I remember feeling very frightened because I thought the floor would disappear under me and I’d just be falling through the sky, through the night. I lose my orientation. I knew there was a ridge coming up but I couldn’t see it and I knew there were walls but I couldn’t see them. And I was trying to head over to the bench with the two seats. It wasn’t really a bench. It was a very small table in between two seats. I’d been told by someone to go and sit on the seat.

J: Who told you?

S: One of them had said to go over and sit down.

J: The Blue?

S: I think so. I don’t know. I’m not sure.

J: And you went over. Did you sit on the seat?

S: I’m looking at it. I’m now facing the other way. I'm behind the contraption with the two seats facing the doorway.

J: How do you feel? What are your feelings?

S: I’m scared.

J: Why are you scared?

S: Because I don’t know why they want me to sit on the seat there. I don’t know what they want me to do and I know I can't do anything to the contraption. I’m not qualified to be using it.

J: So what do you do?

S: I just look at it.

J: You didn’t sit on the seat then?

S: I’m looking at it close up but I don’t remember sitting in it. There's a screen. It's  like three circles, one, two and the centre one is raised. And on that centre flat bit there’s a very tiny screen, like a very tiny television screen and it comes out of a ridged backing. It’s not solid and square. It’s got a ridge, like an accordion, behind it and the two circular diases are more like screens. They have a slight backing to them, a semi circular backing. They’re flat. The screens are set into the bench. It gives the impression of being very solid.

J: When you wake up I want you to draw this for me. The details will come back over the next few days very clearly and you’ll be able to draw this precisely, remembering every detail. So when you’ve seen the screen, you stand there looking at it. Do you do anything else?

S: I'm looking at the screen opposite one of the chairs.

J: How big is the screen?

S: It’s circular and it’s set into the table. There's sort of like gear levers, only two or three – three, I think – between the two seats and in front of that little square screen.

J: What is the diameter of the circular screens roughly?

S: About a foot.

J: And the tiny screen. How big is that?

S: It’s about six inches by six.

J: Are the screens blank or is anything on them?

S: The one I’m looking at on the right hand side is blank, but it has lines, one or two lines, white lines, very thing, going across it.

J: Are they moving?

S: Yes, like [unintelligible] I don’t know what the significance is.

J: What do you think all this is for?

S: It’s some sort of control but I don’t know whether it’s....I get the impression it’s to guide the ship, or control the ship.

J: To navigate it, or control. Have you any idea of the size of the ship?

S: The rooms just seem to go on and on forever.

J: So it seems very big.

S: I don’t know. It’s hard to say because the passage or aisle, the passageway curves, so after twenty feet it curves around and you lose sight. There’s no length to gauge how far it goes for because it curves away.

J: Do walk for a long time before you get into the star room?

S: No. The rooms I went in were all very close to each other in the one passageway.

J: So now go back to where you are standing by the screen. What happens now? Are you looking back at the door? You’ve turned away from the screen. What do you do now?

S: I go back to the doorway.

J: And what happens now?

S: I think there’s a Gray there. The light seems to be very bright from the passageway. I can just make out the silhouette of Gray, someone approaching.

J: What’s happening now?

S: I’m just in the passageway. I remember thinking I’d had enough of that room. It had overpowered me in some way. It was just too much. I had to get out of the room.

J: In what sense was it too much?

S: It was too disorientating. It was pretty but it was scary at the same time. I had this awful feeling the floor would just melt away and I’d fall through.

J: Did you feel you were a long way from earth? Were the stars around you familiar stars? Did you see any constellations you’d recognise?

S: No. It was just a lot of stars.

J: Stars like dust?

S: Large stars and a lot of them.

J: Were they very bright?

S: Yes.

J: What colours were they?

S: Just like our stars in the sky. White.

J: What about red and blue and so on?

S: Some of the stars may have sparkled like ours do, sparkle blue. But many were just white. I remember one or two stars seem to grow in prominence. If you concentrated on a star, instead of getting a magnifying glass which was a picture, it just magnified itself.

J: Just as you concentrated on it.

S: Mmm.

J: Through the floor or through the walls?

S: Through whichever one.

J: Did you ever think about one star?

S: I don’t know if I was thinking about it or if it just happened. But that star would get brighter.

[Pause]

S: It may have been after I read Communion or it may have been before; but I remember when I read Communion I kept thinking of that incident in the Mall. And it made me realise that what he [Strieber] is talking about is not a figment of his imagination but something very real and very prevalent. Only we don’t see it. We're not aware of it because we don’t want to be. We close ourselves off.

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The Stella Sessions - Part XI

The Stella Sessions

20 April 1990

J: Now, about the time you left your work and came back two hours late, do you remember that incident? I want you to tell me what happened. You were in the Mall, I think, and you saw somebody?

S: No, I was downstairs in front of the office and I had just had lunch and as I was leaving through the doorway this girl approached me on my right side.

J: Can you describe her?

S: She’s about my height, slimmer, just very average looking, with dark brown wavy hair, shoulder length, brown eyes, fair to light olive skin. She’s wearing jeans and a chequered shirt.

J: What did she say?

S: I think she said she wanted to talk. She asked me what I thought of Whitley Strieber’s works. It was a very brief conversation.

J: And then what happened?

S: I went to walk into the office. But instead I just keep getting a picture of steps leading up to the Mall. That’s all I remember, going up the steps.

J: Had she gone up the steps?

S: I think she was on the left side of me, between me and the steps.

J: Just let the images come. You want to find out where you went during those two hours.

S: She’s just out there in the Mall next to me at the top of the steps, and she’s telling me to jump. I tell her there’s nothing up there, it’s just the sky. And I remember doing as she asked, because I felt really stupid.

J: What happens now?

S: I’m just seeing a dimly lit room.

J: How did you get there?

S: I don’t know.

J: Let’s go back a little bit. She asked you to jump. There were a lot of people around you and you didn’t want to jump.

S: I felt a force lifting me up as I jumped and kept going.

J: Did she come with you?

S: She was watching me go up. She stayed down there.

J: What about the people in the Mall?

S: No one reacted.

J: No one saw it? No one reacted?

S: No. Not now.

J: How high up did you go?

S: The force became very strong about ten feet up. It was almost like a suffocating sort of force. I don’t know how high up I went.

J: Did you look down at all?

S: I looked down as I was being grabbed up. It was almost like being grabbed and it just about knocked the air out of me. And I think I must have been about half bending downwards because of the force and I looked down and I was looking at her looking up at me.

J: How far down did she seem?

S: About ten feet.

J: That’s the last time you saw the ground – when you were about ten feet up?

S: I think so.

J: And you kept on going up till you found yourself in a little room? Is that right?

S: I don’t know.

J: the next think you knew is you were in a room?

S: There’s darkness around me. It’s very dim. There are a few people. One has a beard, which is unusual.

J: One has a beard? Describe him please.

S: He’s got shoulder length hair. It’s very difficult to see the [the whole picture]. All I can see is very distinct details. He has a beard. He’s a bit tall but slender. And they’re all in blue, but I’m not sure if the one with the bear is in a robe rather than a track suit.

J: What colour is the robe?

S: It’s so blurred. It’s very hard to pick out colours.

J: What shade of blue?

S: It’s not a light light blue. It’s a mid blue. It’s been [unintelligible] before but then again it could be because the room is so dark. He's standing there in front of me. There's a couple of others. They’re sitting on the floor and I’m standing there in the corner. There's a bench beside me on my right which extends down along the length of the wall. To my left, the back of the wall curves out and away. And there’s a light in front of me over the other end of the room. I can't see any light bulb. It’s glowing from underneath the floor between the corner of the floor and the bench in the wall. It’s just in one spot. It’s like a semi circular shaped room. The bench goes all the way along. There’s like a sink over the far end of the bench. There’s no taps or anything. It's  just like a hollow [unintelligible].

J: You’ve described that room to me. What’ happens now? You’re back in that room now.

S: I don’t remember. They’re all just standing around.

J: Yes. You’ll remember.

S: No I can't. I remember someone said about using the mind and I can do whatever I want to do with my mind. But that’s all. I don’t remember anything else being discussed other than a feeling that they wanted me to stay with them.

J: What did you say?

S: I don’t remember saying anything.

J: Now, you were there for two hours. It’s a long time.

S: I’d have half an hour for lunch.

J: I see. So you were there for an hour and a half. A lot must have happened. A lot must have been said during that time.

S: No. I don’t remember anything.

J: What happened when you got into the ship?

S: I don’t remember anything once I got on the ship.

J: You’ll remember a little bit because you remember talking to them when you first arrived.

S: I’m just getting the image now. I don’t know whether it's  related or not. There’s a table and someone is showing me a model of a building on it. It’s a four sided pyramid and each storey goes up on end on end and on end.

J: Where is the pyramid?

S: It’s small. It’s only about a foot high. It’s on some sort of table in the room. It's made of black glass and blue and white marble.

J: Did they tell you where it is?

S: I don’t recall the conversation.

J: What is the pyramid?

S: It’s one of their buildings.

J: Where is it?

S: Where they are.

J: Why are they showing you this?

S: I don’t know. It’s not what they are saying. It’s just a feeling I get. That it’s going to be build here. Somewhere on this planet.

J: When will they build it?

S: I don’t think they’ll build it. I think we’ll build it. Something about the time it’s to be built. It almost looks like a nose to be attached to something.

J: Ask them what else they showed when you were on the ship.

S: I’m back in the room with the pictures. They have pictures on their wall and they can show you whatever they want. It’s like the whole wall is covered with screens and there’s no projector in the room. I’m just seeing an aquarium. I’m outside the room in the doorway looking through. It’s just like looking at an aquarium.

J: Do the fishes look familiar?

S: Yes. They do. They look like our goldfish. It’s a huge floor to ceiling, side wall to side wall aquarium.

J: Is it possible that this is a glass wall and that the craft is under the sea?

S: No, I don’t think so. I don’t really know, but there are plants. It’s a picture inside.

J: Why do they have an aquarium?

S: I don’t know.

J: Is this on the same visit from the Mall? So they have you a tour of the ship?

S: I don’t know. I’m seeing a man dressed in black, like in black overalls, padded with a tight belt around his waist, and he’s standing there further down the passageway in front of a doorway that looks like it leads to some sort of room with the controls in it. He’s just standing there with his arms crossed. I don’t remember passing him. I don’t think I did.

J: Are they taking you aboard a ship?

S: No. That’s all I remember, just the room I remember being in. And at one stage a junction in a passage way was very brightly lit. The walls are so bright and white. The light’s sort of an aquarium type thing. There’s a tall one in black further down the passageway. I don’t know whether it’s the same room or not, or another room. It’s dark. There’s just the light coming in from the doorway behind and there’s something oscillating with the lights behind me. And I’m standing at a bed or bunk or table and there’s something else oscillating behind me from the ceiling. It seems like it’s up high. It’s affecting the light that is coming in behind me.

J: Can see what it is?

S: No. The impression I get is that it’s fan of some sort and it’s a darkly lit room. There’s about five low bunks only about a foot off the floor.

J: Bunks? For sleeping?

S: Yes. There’s people sleeping in them with no blankets over them.

J: What sort of people?

S: Could be us [i.e. human beings]. It could be the Blues. The first one’s wearing brown slacks and black shirt.

J: They look like human beings?

S: I can't see them. All I can see is their legs. The rest is in darkness. They look normal. Normal shoes.

J: They don’t take their shoes off when they go to bed as we do?

S: The first one doesn’t have his shoes off now. He’s wearing black polished shoes.

J: Is it dark in there?

S: Yes. The only light is coming from the doorway behind. There's someone else now who’s approaching me. It seems like robot or a being. It come up in front of me and turns to my left and faces the wall. There’s a bench on the wall but otherwise there’s nothing. It’s all smooth. The being is really strange. It’s pure white and there’s no facial features and the front half is clear.  You can see energy or electricity working behind it. It’s like a robot but there's nothing mechanical in it. It’s fluid or has white glowing skin.

J: What’s it doing?

S: It's  just placing it’s hand on the bench.

J: How tall is it?

S: A few inches taller than I am.

J: Is it a humanoid?

S: Yes. Its got a face with no features at all. It’s just completely smooth, almost triangular, but rounded. The broader part is at the forehead area and the point or apex is at the chin. It’s almost glowing. The face is transparent and most of the front areas are transparent. And you can see white wires that have got pin points of light and all short pieces joined together. It’s just inside.

J: Inside it?

S: Yes. It’s just composed of these glowing matchsticks all joining each other at angles. It's  just like a robot.

J: Is it standing around the bench?

S: It's  just standing.

J: Who’s with you when you’re seeing it?

S: I can't see anyone else.

J: Are you by yourself?

S: Mmm.

J: They’re letting you wander round the ship by yourself?

S: No. I’m being guided by someone but I can't see them.

J: Right. Where do you go from there?

S: Where the robot was standing or the being, or whatever it was, it slides back. Which is strange, because it had a bench on it. It wasn’t like a door. It’s sliding away from me and there’s just blackness. A real thick blackness in the room. I think I can just make out a framework or some sort but it’s just totally black. It’s like the star room I was in but there’s no stars. It’s just black. All the floors are black, the walls are black.

J: Are you inside it or outside?

S: Outside. I’m just in the room with the being.

J: What else can you see?

S: I don’t know. I’m trying to understand.

J: Don’t try to understand. Just say what you see.

S: It’s like the ceiling is domed and there are frames that come out and merge back in with the wall and they go up to the apex. And the higher parts are some sort of sections or screens or something. And it’s cold and it’s echoey.

J: Is it very big?

S: Yes.

J: How high would you say it was?

S: Forty or fifty feet high. It’s very high and very long. It’s rounded but not round.

J: How long?

S: About a hundred yards maybe.

J: Is it all dark?

S: A bit of light is coming in now, enough to see the framework on the top of the dome.

J: Is this in the craft itself or elsewhere?

S: I don’t know. It seems like it’s elsewhere. I feel like it’s out in space. It’s so inky black. But there's no stars. And though they’re coming very, very faint. And way, way, over between two supports, it sort of come out from the wall and then back in. It’s one section that’s seem to be lit from something coming through a window or a screen. I can see just dimly a couple of figures way, way over. It’s huge, echoey. I don’t remember it echoing in there before. But as you walk across the surface, it’s hard and cold, like marble, I suppose. I can hear my shoes clipping it. It’s a highly polished floor and its got etchings, like etched in it, engraved in it or something. It’s like a cobweb pattern, circular with lines radiating out from it like a spider’s cobweb. The lines are straight but making a sort of octagonal circular type pattern. It’s very much like a cobweb pattern on the floor, etched into the glassy surface. It reminds me a bit of an observatory where they have the domed ceiling. It must be some sort of observatory within a craft. There's nothing in the centre of it. I have a feeling that the domed ceiling could slide back, that the whole thing’s designed to slide back and fit into each other.

[End of session]

COPYRIGHT (C) 2010 J D FRODSHAM

The Stella Sessions - Part X

The Stella Sessions

12 April 1990

J: Can you tell me about the star room?

S: One of the rooms located more in the centre of the craft. Each time the rooms with the table have been to the left, towards the outer periphery of the craft or away from the centre of the craft.

J: Towards the outer periphery of the craft.

S: Yes, the outer edge. There is the star room. I think it was the first time in 1979. I turned right into that, turned left into the passage way and then from the hatch room, then right into the star room and they left me there walking on my own. At first when I walked in it was just like a room with, I think they had two seats and a type of control, in between the two seats. Like I’m seeing at the moment, this single stand and then two seats go out from the single stand and in the centre is a small control machine. There was a thing like we have in our gear box, like a manual stick located on that control, and I think I can see a little screen there as well. Where it’s positioned, it’s way over at the far end of the room. You have to walk right across the room to the other wall and they’re about three feet away, or maybe four feet away, from the other wall and facing that wall. It’s rather strange. And I can see there’s one tall alien. He seems like a Gray but he’s very tall. He’s telling me to walk in and to go and sit down and to look around. There’s nothing to look at really, there’s only the chairs. I start walking in and the further I walk in the darker the room becomes. And the dark it becomes I become aware that there are pinpoints of light like stars appearing. And it isn’t just the side walls, its the floor and ceiling so that by the time I’m half way across the room, it’s like looking down at the night sky.

J: Does it make you feel giddy?

S: It made me feel strange. I could feel the floor but I couldn’t see it. It was like walking in air. It’s really strange. And I got frightened. I became unsure of where the floor exactly was. I mean I could feel it on my feet. I knew I was standing on it but I just couldn’t see it. It was like looking through from millions of miles of stars. It was frightening. And I think there was some sort of step or lower level halfway through the room and I was getting a bit concerned because I was nearing it, and I just couldn’t see it, so I was anticipating it with each step. And I didn’t think I’d make it to the chairs.

J: What happened?

S: I think I turned around and hightailed out. It was just too much.

J: Can you remember? Let me take you back there. It must have been a wonderful experience.

S: I suppose it was sort of frightening and strange and exciting. It was really pretty. It’s my favourite room, the star room.

J: Can you remember the stars, the colours of the stars?

S: Mainly white. But it was really just like looking up at our night sky but sort of being in the middle of it all.

J: More intense than our night sky?

S: Yes. Much more brilliant, much blacker and the stars were a little bit bigger. Some were bigger and some were the same. And he said that’s how they drive. That’s how they see where they’re going. That’s how they navigate.

J: From that room?

S: Yes. He said that’s how they know where they’re going and they can change the...I don’t know, I suppose it’s like a...

J: A display? A pattern of stars?

S: Yes, they can change it so they know where they’re going. But it was almost like everything had disappeared, even the earth. And we could see the stars that were down through the earth. And the walls of the craft had disappeared had you could see through the walls.

J: The earth itself had disappeared?

S: Well, we must have had the earth somewhere behind us or below us, but when I looked down, it was like looking for miles and miles and miles through all these stars. It was like everything had disappeared and all you could see was the stars.

J: Did you know how far you were from earth? How far you’d come? Did they ever give you an indication as to whether they took you far from earth?

S: No. I remember when I first arrived in the craft I looked out through their glassless window and it must have been up about – I don’t know – I could see people down there but they were tiny and we must have been...i don’t know, its hard to say.

J: Several thousand feet?

S: No. It wasn’t that small. I could see everything. It’s like the cars were toys.

J: About a thousand feet? About two thousand feet?

S: But I could see everything. I don’t think it was that far up. Seemed more like being just ten, twenty floors up or something.

J: Have they ever taken you out into deep space?

S: I remember after the ’77 sighting. They put me in a glass cylinder, I think. They were in them too. There's just one or two that weren’t and we were lined along the wall. It’s like a wall that came about from a screen or window. And they opened up the wall and it was like a huge window into space. And then we just took off and it was like...everything sort of became like tunnel vision, all the stars just became like streets. We were going so fast. I remember my ears started paining, the pain was terrible and I ended up screaming out in pain and I asked them to stop and I think they did.

J: You must have gone a long way.

S: It was so fast. It was like everything was going into the centre. I had a feeling we were travelling at quite a speed.

J: Where did they take you to?

S: They didn’t take me anywhere. I don’t think they managed to because my ears were paining.

J: They came back.

S: Yes. Or stopped. That’s all I remember.

J: Was almost everybody in glass tubes?

S: Yes.

J: Except for two?

S: Yes, one or two.

J: Were they Grays or Blues?

S: I remember one was a Blue. I don’t know about the other. One was a Blue. Maybe I was in his capsule. Or maybe they had spare capsules. I don’t know. It’s just that I’ve never seen that room again.

J: You’ve never seen the star room again?

S: Not the star room, the one with all the capsules.

J: So you think that was the only time perhaps that you’ve been out into deep space in the capsule?

S: Yes.

J: I’d like you to tell me now what you think the relationship is between the people you call the Egyptians and the ancient Egyptians themselves you’ve been reading about in these two books.

S: I have a strong feeling that the ancient Egyptians modelled themselves on what they saw and on what their pharaohs saw, because their pharaohs were chosen.

J: Have they ever indicated to you there is any relationship between them and ancient peoples?

S: Yes.

J: What did they say?

S: They didn’t say anything. It was more what they did.

J: What did they do?

S: I have to go back to the ’79 sighting when I was standing on the road with a few friends and we looked up and there was that very strong, almost like a hypnotic pull and the window over their craft moved down to us very quickly. Or it was like my mind moved up to them, so that I was there mentally and spiritually. And I was looking through their window and the Egyptian looking driver – I presume he was the driver because he was standing at the bench which later I was also standing at, the bench with the controls – he was looking down at me. And I was struck by the similarity of his eyes, the way they have dark brown eyes, and the way his eyebrows had a very pronounced arch like the ancient Egyptians murals. I can't remember if his hair was long or of a shorter length. I think it was. I’m fairly sure it was because I said to my friend beside me, I said he’s like a Pharaoh. He was just looking at us. He didn’t blink his eyes. He just stood there. It was like he was reading us. It was a strange feeling. I said, ‘He must be a Pharaoh.’ And the next thing he did was he reached down with his right and lifted up this headdress, the gold and blue headdress that they wear, a stiff sort of helmet, sort of soft material, and he placed it on his head to cover his hair and I thought, ‘Well, they must be related somewhere, there has to be a connection. And he must have been a Pharaoh or their leader at the least.’ And I remember I was absolutely awed by the headdress. It was beautiful. The gold was such a deep, deep yellow gold and the blue – they must have been sapphires – was so deep a blue almost to be black. But you could see the blue light and it was amazing. I’ve never seen anything so vivid.

J: Have you seen anything like this in the Egyptian jewellery books that you were looking at, anything remotely like it?

S: No, no. They don’t have the Pharaoh’s headdress. The closest I could get to it would be the funerary mask of Tutankhamen. That’s the closest. It's  so much like that and it was just beautiful. I felt overpowered by it.

J: Have you ever indicated to you why they offered you the headdress?

S: No. The closest I could get to who I am to them would be when they offered the headdress and gold circlet with the plain gold copper at the top. When I think of it now, I feel ashamed that I refused it.

[End of session]

COPYRIGHT (C) 2010 J D FRODSHAM